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LED's maybe our only hope.
I'm skeptical about that article, while yes the condition of our sun will obviously affect our climate, climate simulations have given fairly concrete evidence that the amount of CO2 we emit into the atmosphere will cause considerable increases in global temperature. It's quite simple really, we know the amount of CO2 our industries emit (based off fuel consumption), we know the chemical properties of Carbon Dioxide, and we know the size of our planet and atmosphere. So I think it's fair to say that a simulation based of these facts would be pretty accurate. Even if the sun has some effect, it doesn't mean that CO2 emissions have nothing to do with it. Also consider the fact that there are oils companies that value in the trillions who would really benefit form the argument presented here, hard to say that about the green house effect.
Not that simple. Just talk to an expert meteorologist. Their weather models, which have far more research and work put into them, can't accurately predict the weather a week out, or more. So how is some climate model going to accurately predict the future climate? It can't, there are way to many variables.
Wade, you know a lot about HID bulbs. I've got a desk lamp that has one in it and I haven't changed the bulb in over 5 years. So why are the global warming nuts trying to force me to buy compact florescent bulbs? Why not HID bulbs?
At first the anti-enviromentalists were all like "No, there's not global warming. Not at all. You're making it up."
But now it's more like "Yeah, there is a global warming, but we humans didn't cause it. Don't blame us"
Make up your fucking mind.
We can't just continue to pump out shit into the atmoshpere and expect everything to be alright.
Yeah the Earth pumps way more shit into the atmosphere with volcanoes than we ever will, yet we're here. Volcanos have been spewing shitloads of crap into the atmosphere through Earth's history, far more crap than we ever could dream of, and we're here, alive and well. About 600,000 years ago when the Super Volcano under Yellowstone National Park erupted over half of the USA was covered in ash. Last I checked, we're no where close to putting out that kind of pollution.
And I thought Humans + Earth = Global Warming which lead me to believe this theory Humans - Earth = No Global Warming. Oh well
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That's nothing but cleaning the hands of those who keep producing benefits the most efficiently possible, even though they're harming the natural cycles of the Earth.
It's very easy to search for another way to elude the responsabilities. No matter how many times he says that it is okay to look for other sources, the point is basicly "come on guys let's continue wiping our asses with the Kioto's Protocol". It's really cool when it is the other people who get massive radiations from UV rays (like Chili, Antartica, oh, that's on the south hemisphere who the fuck cares), tornadoes, hurricanes (the US didn't even get away on those ones), etc.
Of course that the Earth has cycles of warming and cooling in a small scale, but getting disasters on the way isn't in a good plan. Meh, only poor people who didn't have insurances had any really serious repercussion on Katrina, I'm okay with that, right?
As you say a few comments above: "ruin our economies and put more people into poverty because we think we're screwing up the Earth..." Wow,dedicating more money to the investigation budges won't do any harm, medicine in the USA is that advanced because of that. I don't think that you'll fall into poverty because you have to use a train, tram, or whatever (which are safer and quicker) instead of hanging around with your car to travel to another city (or getting the newspaper!), or that you'll become miserable because industries put some solar pannels in the middle of Arizona in order to get some solar power. Oops, I forgot, about 1/15 of the huge industries will be spent on investigation, oh my.
It's only the US who pollutes, of course, but it's definately the leader. It's funny when they bought the poor countries' pollution limit just to be able to make some more money.
Global warming doesn't only affect heat, but also all the other climate and weather effects, it's a misinterpretation of the term. He continously states places where IT WAS COLDER THAN EVER (is that a good thing???), where it snows where it hasn't before (wow that's fucking cool, only a few animals and plants die hell yeah)...and I ask if that isn't a change (for the bad) too.
Crazy weather has been around in the past, it's not caused by us, it's cause by natural weather patterns, climate cycles, the Sun's cycles, etc. Katrina? Katrina was nothing, much worse Hurricanes were around and hit the USA in the early 1900's, you know, before "we were causing global warming".
If some of the storms from the past return, we'll see Massachusettes get hit with Hurricanes that produce 180MPH wind gusts, etc. The problem is we now have populated areas in places that weren't populated 20, 50, 100 years ago, etc. The storms that hit them had no one to record them, but when they hit now it's a big deal, and people blame it on global warming, our pollution, etc. The problem is people are building homes in places that are vunerable to big storms that may only come along every 50-200 years. Or longer. We only have a short snap shot of weather to work with, who knows what kind of storms were around over the past few thousand years.
meh i made a couple of mistakes up there, "it's NOT only the USA who.."
"1/15 of the huge industries WORTH will be..."
and if there are more you get the point
Makes sense, but we're not making it any better...
We don't know that. For all we know, we're making it better. That's the problem, we don't know, for sure, what the best move is. Maybe our carbon emissions have prevented an ice age?
Im an idiot..
i read the whole of
"Why The Sun Is The Cause Of Climate Change"
Ahhhh =[
Ah, but the USA has the highest CO2 emissions per person in the world (not saying it isthe cause of global warming). China is rising fast, but it has a much higher population, so the CO2 levels per person are low.
Well, according to some other articles, we are to blame. But whatever, whether or not the planet is warming and whether or not we were the ones screwing it up, a cleaner earth is all good.
I agree, and we should continue to take steps to clean things up, but in order to do that we have to have stable economies etc. If we make new laws that destroy corporations, bankrupt our economy, etc, you can forget about fighting pollution, no one will give a shit, because they will be fighting to survive, and pollution will get worse. Baby steps is what it takes. We have to move at a pace that allows us to keep our economies stable and strong, so we have the money and the will to fund projects to come up with cleaner technologies, etc.
Have you read "State Of Fear" by Michael Crichton? Great read, really opened my eyes to what the spinsters feed us.
<a href="http://www.curledup.com/stateoff.htm">www.curledup.com/stateoff.htm</a>
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And though even if we stop global warming its damage can never be undone and the damage that has already damaged the earth will still keep on damaging it, we lose even if the human race dose shape up...<Wrist/>
How do you know? The Earth has suffered far worse than we've thrown at it, and it has recovered fine. Remember Dinosaurs? Something killed them all, probably a large meteor impacting the Earth. The Earth recovered.
yes, but is this true or..
I'll beleive the people that have studied the weather for half a century before I believe people like Al Gore who are in it for the money, and not the science.
Interesting to see another side of the argument, but you cannot deny there is more than one factor here. This is kindof like dumping gasoline in a forest and then saying it was dry anyways when it burns down. It's an excuse, but you're still an idiot. The fact is, we've sped global warming years ahead, even if we are just making the inevitable happen sooner. Besides, this is accepted fact and fits right in with all the theories. It's been thought of, and now it's just being used as an excuse. quite simply:
sun + thick atmosphere = hot earth,
hotter sun + thick atmosphere = hotter earth.
Don' be to quick to shift the blame from us or we'll never deal with it.
The fact is? 17,000 scientist don't agree with your facts.
well, thats called:"evolution"
We just pollute to much. It's not that hard to get.
We've seen how bad the forrest fires can be out around California. Imagine what the forrest fires were like before we were around to manage forrests, and fight forrest fires. Then you'd see some real pollution.
Seamonky
Fix my screen dammit. I blame you for the sun increasing and the ozone layer... and my screen being green. Hahaha!